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Manchester United told to expect £24m drop in projected revenue• Financial advisers issue warning to Manchester United
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The Guardian, Wednesday 31 March 2010
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Manchester United supporters' protests against the Glazer family could add to the uncertainty surrounding the club's future revenue expectations. Photograph: Julian Finney/Getty Images

Manchester United's financial advisers expect the club to miss out on at least £24m in cumulative match-day revenues over the next two years. That constitutes a decline of more than 11% and enough each year to pay Wayne Rooney's wages twice over.

JP Morgan's analysis of the club's financial position, set out in a research document released last Friday, shows United's 2009 match-day income of £109m to be a high-water mark. Even in its supposed "upside scenario", in which the club progresses to the Champions League quarter-final or beyond in both years, it anticipates a drop to £98m this season and to £96m next. And the recovery from that base will be weak: to £101m the following year. Indeed, United's own budgets predict an even bigger two-year fall of £29m, with much of the collapse attributed to the difficulties in selling executive boxes. The document states: "Most of the impact from the economic slowdown was felt in the executive hospitality business, which we would argue is a highly discretionary expense."

Yet JP Morgan concedes that even those estimates could prove optimistic at a time when the Manchester United Supporters Trust has been increasing its attack on the Glazer family's ownership of the club. It adds: "We note that the coming two quarters will be important to gauge demand for 2010-11 season tickets and executive hospitality seating in light of the negative MUST PR campaign." This is one of the "external risks" JP Morgan cites, adding: "It would place significant strain on the company's limited free cash-flow generation."

Benítez helps Spurs profit - Ask Rafael Benítez why Liverpool are struggling to make it into the Champions League this year and he will tell you it is the pesky board. The poor lamb has had only £20m to play with each year over and above what he raises in sales and he had a bit of a gripe about this transfer straitjacket last Friday.

At the moment Tottenham Hotspur look likeliest to supplant them. Just imagine what Benítez could have achieved with the Spurs manager's budgets . . . except that figures released to the Stock Exchange on Friday show Spurs' ascent has been achieved on rather less cash spend than the Anfield club's. In fact, Spurs' rise has been managed on a net transfer profit of £62.8m between July 2008 and December 2009. And who contributed a decent slice of that? Why, Señor Benítez, who was Spurs' £8m benefactor with the purchase and sale back of Robbie Keane.

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love the words 'glazer' 'united' and 'economic meltdown'

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almost musical ain't it.

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Manchester United spark new cash fears with no to £40m David Villa• Glazer family debt rules out deal for Valencia international
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Valencia's David Villa is set to leave the Mestalla this summer and has indicated that he would like a move to Manchester United. Photograph: Pierre-Philippe Marcou/AFP/Getty Images

Manchester United have turned down the chance to sign David Villa, the Spain striker, because of the financial restrictions placed upon Sir Alex Ferguson by the club's ruling Glazer family.

Villa, one of the most revered forwards in the world during five prolific years at Valencia, is to leave the Mestalla in the summer and, after initially stating that he wanted to stay in Spain and move to either Barcelona or Real Madrid, has changed his position with information reaching United in the last few weeks that they are his preferred destination.

Ferguson is a long-time admirer of the 28-year-old but Valencia want around £35m to £40m and United's position is that the fee will have to be lowered otherwise it will be financially prohibitive at a time when the club has accrued debts in excess of £700m. This is despite Ferguson's repeated insistence that the balance from the £80m sale of Cristiano Ronaldo to Real Madrid last summer is available, United having already spent £20m.

Instead, United responded to their eliminationfrom the Champions League by announcing that they had agreed a deal with Chivas de Guadalajara to sign the Mexico striker Javier Hernández, dependent on the 21-year-old gaining a work permit.

Hernández, also known as Chicharito or "Little Pea", has passed a medical and becomes the seventh striker on United's payroll alongside Wayne Rooney, Michael Owen, Dimitar Berbatov, Federico Macheda, Daniel Welbeck and Mame Biram Diouf. However, his arrival for an undisclosed fee will do little to dispel growing concerns among United supporters that Ferguson is being deprived of significant transfer funds to bring in a player who can ease the level of dependence on Rooney.

Villa would have been one such man, second only to Raúl in La Liga's list of all-time scorers, and is so intrigued by the possibility of playing in the Premier League he is already taking English lessons. He has also spoken to Fernando Torres, his international team-mate, about Liverpool but accepted they would not be able to afford him. Villa thinks less favourably of Chelsea and Manchester City, the two clubs who would have fewer problems matching the fee.

As well as currently being out of United's price range, however, Villa does not fit the Glazers' policy of avoiding spending large sums on players who are 26 or above and who would, in theory, have little resale value at the end of a four- or five-year contract. The club made an exception for Dimitar Berbatov, who was 27 when he signed from Tottenham Hotspur for £30.75m in September 2008, but that transfer has been described by the chief executive, David Gill, as the last of its kind.

Hernández has scored 11 goals in Mexico's Primera División this season, putting him joint third in the scoring charts, and has won four caps, scoring against New Zealand, Bolivia and North Korea. As part of the deal, United will play a friendly to open the new Chivas stadium in July.

"I am delighted to reach agreement with Chivas to bring in such an exciting young striker, who has been in such prolific form for both his club and his country," Ferguson said. "He will be a great addition to our squad and we look forward to welcoming our first Mexican player in the summer."

"I feel like I am living a dream," Hernández told the club's television station. "All the impressions I have of the club are good and Sir Alex Ferguson is a great person, maybe the best coach in the world."

The signing was announced as Wayne Rooney underwent further tests on the ankle injury he aggravated during the Champions League quarter-final against Bayern Munich on Wednesday. Rooney had initially been ruled out of the match and is in danger of missing Sunday's game at Blackburn Rovers, but Ferguson said he did not regret rushing him back.

"I never force the medical staff into anything," he said. "It is important they make the right decisions about players' fitness. And they made the right decision. The medical staff did not see any problem."

The Football Association has been monitoring the situation closely but, despite Fabio Capello's obvious concerns about seeing his main striker limp off for a second time in eight days, England's management team are said to understand United's position and the reasons for playing Rooney. Capello and his medical team had been aware since last weekend that there was a good chance Rooney could play and that the injury was nothing like as serious as Ferguson had portrayed when he ruled the player out for up to three weeks.

After Wednesday's game Ferguson accused Bayern's players of deliberately targeting Rooney and he was also angered by the way they had surrounded the Italian referee, Nicola Rizzoli, to demand that Rafael da Silva be sent off for a second bookable offence. United's manager described them as "typical Germans" and the Bayern president, Uli Hoeness, condemned those comments yesterday.

"When we lost the Champions League against Manchester United in 1999 we lost like gentlemen," Hoeness said. "We were good and fair losers and I think that's what Manchester should do now. It's an over-reaction on his part, maybe because he is disappointed to lose. Normally he is a fine gentleman but I think what he has said is not right."


we should get in there.

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After Wednesday's game Ferguson accused Bayern's players of deliberately targeting Rooney and he was also angered by the way they had surrounded the Italian referee, Nicola Rizzoli, to demand that Rafael da Silva be sent off for a second bookable offence. United's manager described them as "typical Germans" and the Bayern president, Uli Hoeness, condemned those comments yesterday.
"When we lost the Champions League against Manchester United in 1999 we lost like gentlemen," Hoeness said. "We were good and fair losers and I think that's what Manchester should do now. It's an over-reaction on his part, maybe because he is disappointed to lose. Normally he is a fine gentleman but I think what he has said is not right."


He's a scotch thug and a moaning cheat. They should know that by now.

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quite. hardly a surprise of course.

there should be more made of it though, along the lines of rafa's rant.

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Little Pea? That's brilliant.:D Up front with Shrek, and the Gay Dracula.


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more good news

Manchester United owners hit by debt payment rise


United fans have protested against the Glazer's ownership of the club


By David Bond
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Manchester United's owners the Glazer family have been hit with a steep rise in their annual debt payments after the club exceeded a limit on their overall borrowings which form part of their controversial PIK loans agreement.

The Glazers used the high interest form of financing to help raise the funds for their £790m takeover in 2005.

But the loans, originally worth £265m and taken out with three hedge funds - Citadel, Och Ziff and Perry Capital - but reduced to £138m as part of a 2006 refinancing, include strict covenants relating to net debt levels and the club's earnings.

Failure to meet the borrowers' terms by 16 August meant the annual interest rose from 14.25% to 16.25%.

Analysts predict the annual payment will now increase to about £38m, up from £25m last year. Because the interest on the loans is "rolled up" and added to the original sum borrowed the Glazers will owe around £267m on the PIK loans by 2011 - almost a £100m increase in only five years.

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And although Manchester United are not directly liable for the PIK loans as they sit on the accounts of the club's parent company, Red Football Joint Venture Ltd, the sharp rise will add to fans' concerns over the American family's ownership.

It will also raise fears among supporters that the Glazers will soon use the club's revenues to start paying off the PIK borrowings.

As part of a £504m bond refinancing earlier this year, the Glazers have an option to take £95m out of the club's cash reserves. According to the most recent set of accounts published by United they have £95.9m of cash available.

Duncan Drasdo, a spokesman for Manchester United Supporters Trust (MUST), said: "The Glazers' PR people claim this PIK debt is nothing to do with Manchester United but we believe in the next 12 months accounts will start to show them taking even more money out of our club.

"They've already wasted more on interest and fees than the total sum of all season ticket money paid by every supporter in their entire five year ownership.

"On top of all that how much more will this extra interest cost us? A Chicarito per season? A Rooney over the term of the debt? Imagine what we could achieve if released from the millstone of the Glazers' ownership."

In May the Red Knights group of wealthy fans announced they had put on hold any plans to bid for United, citing the Glazers' asking price of £1.5bn as too high.

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It would be funny if they had a bad season, and they are due one, and failed to qualify for the Champions League. I'd love it, love it.:approve:


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:D

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do you think that they would chain up the gates a la ayresome park when boro went bust?

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sure it could be arranged...

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do you think that they would chain up the gates a la ayresome park when boro went bust?


We could offer to buy it off them, and rent it back to them.:D


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Never liked yanks, but after they have fucked the rags and liverpool up I'm a massive fan


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Manchester United's owners, the Glazer family, have suffered further embarrassing financial difficulties after four more of its US shopping malls recently fell into default on their mortgages. With the interest rate charged on United's enormous "payment-in-kind debts" rising from 14.25% to 16.25% this month, the news could hardly come at a worse time.

An investigation by the Guardian in conjunction with the BBC's Panorama programme and the investment analyst Andy Green in June found that of the 68 shopping malls owned by the Glazers' US-based First Allied Corporation, four had gone bust and one more had defaulted on its mortgage. An analysis of the malls' most recent financial disclosures has revealed that four more have since failed to pay their mortgages and become classified as "delinquent", with two falling into default this month.

The four malls are in Houston, Texas; Denver, Colorado and two in Ohio. That means nine, or 13%, of the Glazers' malls are now "delinquent" or insolvent, and a further 29 centres, 43%, have so many units empty the rental income does not cover the mortgage payments. First Allied is the only significant business the Florida-based family runs besides Manchester United and the Tampa Bay Buccaneers NFL franchise, and the bank disclosures show it making income above the malls' running costs of only US$9m a year.

These disclosures come at a particularly sensitive time considering United's own debts. The interest rate increase took effect this month, according to the most recent accounts filed by one of the Glazers' United companies.

According to Red Football Joint Venture Limited, the accounts for the year to 30 June 2009 recorded that United's total bank and other borrowings had swollen to £716m, all of it derived from the Glazers' original personal borrowings to buy the club in the first place in 2005. Of that, around £500m was owed to banks and refinanced in January with the issue of bonds at an average around 8.5% interest "yield" annually – £42.5m this year.

The payments in kind, originally owed to three hedge funds, had risen to £202m by 30 June last year, so at 14.25% have accrued a further £34m interest since. That interest is not paid but accumulates, so the Glazers' United companies now owe £236m to the hedge funds. The increased interest rate to 16.25% means that over the next year a further £38m will be added, swelling the total to £274m, unless a proportion of the hedge fund debt is paid off.

No public United documents explain why the interest rate has increased, but it has been reported that United were hit with it as a penalty clause because their debts have risen to more than five times the basic profit they make.

The club's chief executive, David Gill, has maintained that the payment-in-kind debts at these credit-card rates of interest are not the club's responsibility, but fall on the family to repay. However, it is not at all clear the Glazers have the resources from First Allied or elsewhere to meet these liabilities, and the bond document issued by United provides the right to take almost £130m out of the club. That can be used to pay towards the payment-in-kind debt if necessary.

Gill and the Glazers argue the club is unaffected by these debts, by far the largest external borrowings ever owed by an English football club, and that funds are available for the manager Sir Alex Ferguson to spend. The manager has said the transfer market is over-priced and it is his own choice this summer to have signed only Chris Smalling from Fulham, Javier Hernández from Guadalajara and the deal which has stunned football, the 20 year old Portuguese striker, Bébé, for £7.4m.

Yet Green – an investment analyst and United supporter who writes about the club's finances in his blog http://www.andersred.blogspot.com – said the latest disclosures from First Allied were a cause for further concern. "They show that the Glazer family's only significant other business is making almost no money, and certainly not generating the cash to reduce United's massive debts," he said. "The family's shopping malls are afflicted by low occupancy rates, more have fallen into default, and whatever David Gill says, there appears no doubt that Manchester United itself will be made to service these useless debts and pay huge interest payments, all money which could have been spent signing players."

Neither the spokesman for Manchester United nor the Glazer family were available for comment yesterday.


http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2010/aug/24/manchester-united-glazers-mortgage-malls


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:approve:Thats just put a spring in my step....


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I'd call that kamikazi borrowing.

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i'd call it a couple of christmas' coming at once.

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Funny blog on their recent purchase of Bebe.
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Alexander ‘Baconface’ Ferguson, renowned whiskey connoisseur and shameless hypocrite is risking ‘Manchester’ United’s financial future with a bizarre and risky transfer strategy, one which has seemingly backfired in a most embarrassing manner.

We all know of the unfortunate and well documented financial mire that Stretford’s finest are in (www.bbc.co.uk/news) and how Manchester City’s’ increased spending has left Alexander with a face like a bulldog licking piss of a thistle. He recently, and with absolutely no sense of irony, accused gods own club of ‘Kamikaze spending’ when discussing their purchasing of England’s finest prospects, Champions league and World cup winners and internationally renowned talent. It seems odd then, that he has spent what little pocket money he’s been given on an unknown Portuguese fellow called ‘Bebe’. ‘Bebe’ cost £7.5 million, around 7/8ths of his transfer budget. This is a chap that Alexander confesses to have never seen play.

Fair enough, you may think, Alexander knows what he is doing, snapping up the best youth albeit at steep prices, the real big names have continually snubbed the downtrodden rags and even average players are out of the range of his limited funds, and it’s a shrewd move by the man with a face like a roofer’s nailbag. Sadly, it seems that this isn’t the case. The Guardian have reported on good authority that Bebe is a lemon. Poor ball control and passing skills meant he couldn’t even find a place in the reserve team that played their heart out to narrowly beat Manchester City’s’ fourth string.

Given the constraints previously mentioned there is growing concern around parts of southern England that Alexander is putting the very fabric of the club at risk with what is seen as ‘strange and desperate signings’. One United fan I spoke to earlier simply said;

”I really fear for my club, if this carries on we are considering a green and yellow style campaign for Fergie, parts of Lambeth will be awash with Black scarves to signify our dismay. Some of us are even talking about cancelling our Sky accounts.”

What do you make of this frivolous spending by Alexander? Where will end?

As the blue moon rises one can only worry that the man simply known as ‘Whiskey nose’ in Manchester is losing his grip on his club, and his marbles.


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Manchester United failed to reach their target of season ticket sales this summer, the club's chief executive David Gill has confirmed.

But Gill insisted the figure is still "pretty good" in the current economic climate and that the club is in good financial shape. Gill said the number of season tickets sold was 51,800 compared to the target of 54,000, and that executive seat sales were "on track".

United's season ticket sales have been conducted against a backdrop of a campaign by fans' group the Manchester United Supporters' Trust (MUST) urging a boycott in the hope of persuading the American owners, the Glazer family, to sell the club.

Asked about the season-ticket protest, Gill said: "I'll be clear on that. Last year our target was 54,000 season tickets, we've sold 51,800, which is pretty good in the current climate.



And what "climate" is that exactly Gillian? The current economic climate or the climate of fear and loathing that surrounds your tawdry club under it's current owners?


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