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 Post subject: Re: FA Cup
PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 11:07 am 
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But a shirt pull is also a deliberaate foul, but no way could you say it could it is violent..
or perhaps a hand-ball?


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 Post subject: Re: FA Cup
PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 11:11 am 
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Can't stop laughing at the way catflap and the spuds got knocked out..

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 Post subject: Re: FA Cup
PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 11:25 am 
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Bert Trautmanns neck brace wrote:
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By definition a deliberate foul must imply violent conduct.


No it mustn't. 'Violence' is defined as 'behaviour involving physical force intended to hurt, damage, or kill someone or something' - it requires an intention to do damage. Bringing a player down with the intention of preventing him from going through on goal is not 'violent' as there is no intention to do damage to the actual player. Whilst damage may occur, it is the intention to do damage which separates 'violent conduct' from other offences; a reckless two-footed challenge with studs showing, for example, is not a case of 'violent conduct' but of 'serious foul play'.


Which makes contact can only do damage , therefore surely the fact that the player presents his studs in a 2 footed tackle implies that he knows what he is doing and therefore must have malice aforethought by knowing that he is going to hurt some one . The degree of hurt is irrelevant .


No because you can make such a challenge whilst going for the ball - if you miss the ball but hit the player you may hurt them, but you did not necessarily aim to do so as you were going for the ball, not the player. 'Violent conduct' requires intention to do damage, not a reckless disregard for any potential damage that may occur if you mistime your tackle. As ThunderinScitters mentions, a shirt pull is a foul that is usually done deliberately; the intention is to stop the player, not to do him any damage and so it fairly obviously falls outside the remit of 'violent conduct'.


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 Post subject: Re: FA Cup
PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 1:07 pm 
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Bert sorry you're just wrong by the way the laws of the game are applied today.


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 Post subject: Re: FA Cup
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 Post subject: Re: FA Cup
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Definitely wrong. No case for a red card for Cech at all imo.


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 Post subject: Re: FA Cup
PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 2:52 pm 
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Seeing as you are all so clever, what was the best thing before sliced bread?

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 Post subject: Re: FA Cup
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Sliced bread overrated imo.. :whistle:


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 Post subject: Re: FA Cup
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Sliced bread overrated imo.. :whistle:

Totes. Bread is the amazing invention. Food for the masses, probably stopped the human race going extinct. Some fucker comes along and slices it and that's what goes down as the greatest thing of all time. If I'd invented bread I'd be livid.


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South East Citizen wrote:
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Sliced bread overrated imo.. :whistle:

Totes. Bread is the amazing invention. Food for the masses, probably stopped the human race going extinct. Some fucker comes along and slices it and that's what goes down as the greatest thing of all time. If I'd invented bread I'd be livid.


this^^^

and don't forget the first person to fry it in lard..stroke of genius that..


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 Post subject: Re: FA Cup
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Bert Trautmanns neck brace wrote:
Seeing as you are all so clever, what was the best thing before sliced bread?

sex with sheep.

be very grateful for sliced bread.

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 Post subject: Re: FA Cup
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3rd round draw tomorrow at 4pm.

Number 25 we are.

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 Post subject: Re: FA Cup
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Derby v Chelsea
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Birmingham v Bristol Rovers or Crawley
Arsenal v Tottenham
Brighton v Reading
Everton v QPR
Blackburn v Manchester City
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Manchester United v Swansea
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 Post subject: Re: FA Cup
PostPosted: Fri Jan 03, 2014 12:17 pm 
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This Cup is starting to lose it's appeal now by the sounds of it with Lambert more interested in staying in the PL than the FA cup along with West Ham.

Would it be too far of a stretch to say the winners of the FA cup get into the CL????

Give it a load more appeal.

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 Post subject: Re: FA Cup
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When (if) we beat Blackburn we'll play Bristol City or Watford at home.

Good draw.


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 Post subject: Re: FA Cup
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O Blue wrote:
When (if) we beat Blackburn we'll play Bristol City or Watford at home.

Good draw.

yeah, not bad that.
im sure we can beat blackburn at home, and another home draw is good at this stage.

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 Post subject: Re: FA Cup
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This Cup is starting to lose it's appeal now by the sounds of it with Lambert more interested in staying in the PL than the FA cup along with West Ham.

Would it be too far of a stretch to say the winners of the FA cup get into the CL????

Give it a load more appeal.


Nah

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 Post subject: Re: FA Cup
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not a bad weekend as it turns out :D

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He ain't hanging about.

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 Post subject: Re: FA Cup
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Enjoyed this quote from the beeb

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Swansea's win was their first ever at Old Trafford after two draws and eight defeats in their previous 10 visits.

As someone nearby pointed out, David Moyes' United keeps making history at Old Trafford. The only thing is that is for the opposing teams.


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