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Biggest act of all time
The Beatles 54%  54%  [ 15 ]
Elvis Presley 11%  11%  [ 3 ]
Michael Jackson 21%  21%  [ 6 ]
Queen 14%  14%  [ 4 ]
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I've heard quite a few people say Jacjkson invented the moonwalk. He didn't even come close. Here's a clip of Bill Bailey from 1955 doing the moonwalk.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2VbPd2iu4bg

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Micahrichardsatemybaby wrote:
1 - reply to my post above where you directly contradict yourself.

Quite simple. I was exaggerating for effect, and didn't expect someone to come along who thinks that you can argue about personal preferences in music as if there's some objective truth in it. I think the Beatles early stuff is shit in the context of best bands ever (though not biggest bands ever). It doesn't mean I think it's shit, just average (though obviously in reality some shit, some average and a few decent tracks). I also said they were overrated. Which could quite easily mean I think they're only the second best band of all time rather than the best.

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2 - kindly point out to me with quotes, or you can infer if you like, where I suggest they're the greatest ever. Or my favourite band.

I didn't say you did. I simply said you're arguing like a fanboy whose favourite band has been criticised. In other words, as if you can objectively prove that they're a great/shit/average band, and taking any criticism waaay too seriously.

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3 - your viewpoint just smacks of ignorance. When did music have to be complex to make it influential, or make a band big? You're confusing the issue due to your dislike (may be a little strong) of the Beatles

See, now you seem to be mistaking my giving an opinion as a statement of fact. The music I happen to rate most highly is generally more complex than most of The Beatles stuff. That's the type of music I enjoy listening to when I specifically sit down just to listen to music. So I think it's better, obviously (not bigger).

If I was a troll, you'd be very easy to wind up. ;)


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Prince is a God imo, a better musician/writer than MJ fo sho.

Prince/Wonder/Bowie are inseperable in terms of ability and genius.


Go back a few mate, you will see my nod to who i call god a time..A certain mr david bowie...

And stevie....genius.


Im into this one...shit i might be possessed by bassman..:eek:

The complex one...

Well not complex, but artist's searching for the perfect song..
I saw a really good docu about tears for fears, and how they fell apart and ultimately got back together.
But a good part was about sowing the seeds..
And how they set out to make in their vision the perfect song..
And how it became a total noose around their necks...
utterly over engineered and in kurt and rolands opinion, ruined.
It became like 3 -4 different songs all in one....

I love it and think its a great song..but they hate what it became..

But it was a great insight into how they view their own music, and how they approach it...

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save me jeebus wrote:
I've heard quite a few people say Jacjkson invented the moonwalk. He didn't even come close. Here's a clip of Bill Bailey from 1955 doing the moonwalk.

Image


this is who taught jacko the moonwalk...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ImkBve8OW8

fucking legend..

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kippax_in_my_blood wrote:
this is who taught jacko the moonwalk...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ImkBve8OW8

fucking legend..


I know I fucked it up. I went back and corrected it. This is it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2VbPd2iu4bg

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I'm With Stupid wrote:
Quite simple. I was exaggerating for effect, and didn't expect someone to come along who thinks that you can argue about personal preferences in music as if there's some objective truth in it. I think the Beatles early stuff is shit in the context of best bands ever (though not biggest bands ever). It doesn't mean I think it's shit, just average (though obviously in reality some shit, some average and a few decent tracks). I also said they were overrated. Which could quite easily mean I think they're only the second best band of all time rather than the best.


I didn't say you did. I simply said you're arguing like a fanboy whose favourite band has been criticised. In other words, as if you can objectively prove that they're a great/shit/average band, and taking any criticism waaay too seriously.


See, now you seem to be mistaking my giving an opinion as a statement of fact. The music I happen to rate most highly is generally more complex than most of The Beatles stuff. That's the type of music I enjoy listening to when I specifically sit down just to listen to music. So I think it's better, obviously (not bigger).

If I was a troll, you'd be very easy to wind up. ;)


Bold 1: Have you seen Bassman post? :D
Bold 2: Were. It's the conditional. :approve: (got to claw back SPG points after the infer debacle).

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kippax_in_my_blood wrote:
Go back a few mate, you will see my nod to who i call god a time..A certain mr david bowie...

And stevie....genius.


Im into this one...shit i might be possessed by bassman..:eek:

The complex one...

Well not complex, but artist's searching for the perfect song..
I saw a really good docu about tears for fears, and how they fell apart and ultimately got back together.
But a good part was about sowing the seeds..
And how they set out to make in their vision the perfect song..
And how it became a total noose around their necks...

utterly over engineered and in kurt and rolands opinion, ruined.
It became like 3 -4 different songs all in one....

I love it and think its a great song..but they hate what it became..

But it was a great insight into how they view their own music, and how they approach it...


Good Vibrations?

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kippax_in_my_blood wrote:
Whats a complex song as opposed to something regular...?


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:D

Regular would be verse - chorus - verse - chorus - key change (80's optional) - rap verse (90's optional) - chorus. Just anything that's not the same old structure over and over, a few more layers to the music, etc. Basically, closer to orchestral than singing man with guitar.


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save me jeebus wrote:
I know I fucked it up. I went back and corrected it. This is it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2VbPd2iu4bg



watch this jeebs..
it has the bill bailey clip..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LhORApox81M&feature=related

Its goes back to the 30's with cab calloway..

But jeffrey daniel taught MJ..and he did all the choreography for Bad and another, and was a in bad himself..aswell as the presenter of soul train and the band shalamar...

knowledge is the bomb... :p

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Benny wrote:
Bold 2: Were. It's the conditional. :approve: (got to claw back SPG points after the infer debacle).


Ah, but if you read the content of the post, I might just be doing it on purpose to wind you up.*







*Shameless attempt to save face on the grammar front.


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I'm With Stupid wrote:
Ah, but if you read the content of the post, I might just be doing it on purpose to wind you up.*







*Shameless attempt to save face on the grammar front.


's OK. I'm clutching at straws anyway. Right, but clutching at straws. :D

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Have i ever told you that i really don't like The Beatles? Yes, i have. But it's still true.

I think it's mainly because i hate Sgt Peppers. I do like Hard Days Night, that's a good album, but i really do think Sgt Peppers is awful, and i just can't get past that.

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Squidge wrote:
Have i ever told you that i really don't like The Beatles? Yes, i have. But it's still true.

I think it's mainly because i hate Sgt Peppers. I do like Hard Days Night, that's a good album, but i really do think Sgt Peppers is awful, and i just can't get past that.


They are bin dippers squidge..don't be ashamed to express yourself..;)

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Have i ever told you that i really don't like The Beatles? Yes, i have. But it's still true.

I think it's mainly because i hate Sgt Peppers. I do like Hard Days Night, that's a good album, but i really do think Sgt Peppers is awful, and i just can't get past that.


I know this'll fire you up, but did you not once say Oasis were better than the beatles?

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I know this'll fire you up, but did you not once say Oasis were better than the beatles?


Not sure. I did say Oasis version of I Am The Walrus is better.

If i ever did say that though, i change it to "I prefer Oasis".

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Not sure. I did say Oasis version of I Am The Walrus is better.

If i ever did say that though, i change it to "I prefer Oasis".


Booooooooooooooooooo. You were supposed to rise much better than that. :D

Nicely done sir.

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Booooooooooooooooooo. You were supposed to rise much better than that.


The bain of my life.

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Bain doesn't look like a word.

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Bain doesn't look like a word.


It's bane.

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It's bane.


Ok. It still doesn't sound like a word.

Just one of those words for me. Like length. That's a disgusting looking word.

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