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PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2013 1:28 am 
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Because I am a mean sod I scour the kindle shop for the free books.Most of them are free for a reason ie they are self published crap.
Sometimes however , like women , you can find a diamond amongst the lumps of coal.


Just pay £4.50 for this service:

http://btguard.com/

If you were then inclined to download loads of stuff: films, music, books etc then you'd be absolutely quids in. All of the fun of getting what you want for £4.50 a month and none of the worry about being on the radar of the authorities.

I wholeheartedly do not think illegal downloading is fun but if you were to do it, in the current climate that exists, please, please, please do not do it without protection. I'll get coodered if I go into depth but trust me, if you're of a mind to download stuff have protection please


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2013 1:34 am 
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Evidence?

http://torrentfreak.com/copyright-vultures-circle-as-court-green-lights-anti-piracy-scheme-121228/

Copyright Vultures Circle As Court Green-Lights Anti-Piracy Scheme

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Despite intervention by the Open Rights Group, an adult movie company in the UK has been given the green light to hugely expand its anti-piracy operations in the UK. The Court of Appeal told Golden Eye, a company connected with the Ben Dover porn brand, that it can start sending out thousands of cash demands to individuals suspected of sharing not only their works online, but those that belong to third party righsholders. Already the company has indicated it intends to expand its project.

Refusing to give up after two previous attempts failed, in September 2011 Golden Eye, a company affiliated with the Ben Dover porn brand, renewed its battle to obtain permission to chase down alleged file-sharers in the UK.

The battle was complex, but essentially the company was told by the High Court that it could only pursue sharers of Ben Dover content, not those who were alleged to have shared content owned by third-party companies.

The case went to the Court of Appeal and despite intervention by the Open Rights Group, has now resulted in the best possible outcome for Golden Eye.

The short term implications concern the 9,000 IP addresses currently in Golden Eye’s possession. Previously the High Court ordered ISP O2 to hand over the identities of individuals associated with 2,845 of them, account holders whose connections were allegedly used to share Ben Dover movies.

But now, thanks to the Court of Appeal ruling, Golden Eye will now be able to obtain the identities behind another 6,155 IP addresses, those connected to the sharing of content owned by other studios.

“It was both illogical and inconsistent for the judge to deny the self-same relief to the other claimants merely because they have chosen to pursue their claims with the assistance of Golden Eye under arrangements which the judge had previously found to be both lawful and not part of a speculative invoicing scheme,” Lord Justice Patten ruled.

The implications of the ruling are serious. Golden Eye can now approach companies that previously haven’t had the will or means to obtain court orders against individuals they believe to have shared their products online, giving them easy access to a ready-made pay-up-or-else scheme in the UK.

In a nutshell, the Court of Appeal just sanctioned the sending of a tidal wave of settlement letters to UK Internet account holders, the proceeds of which will enrich Golden Eye to the tune of 75% of the takings and rightsholders to 25%.

And according to Golden Eye’s Julian Becker, things will kick off quickly. Not only will the letters connected to the first batch of 9,000 IP addresses go out in the New Year, but the company will now work on getting more rightsholders on board.

“I look forward to traveling to adult conferences in Los Angeles and Vegas in early January to offer Golden Eye’s services to other producers,” he told the BBC.

Individuals who are contacted by Golden Eye should read this article and write to TorrentFreak in complete confidence.


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2013 1:36 am 
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If you did receive a letter, this may help:

http://torrentfreak.com/o2-be-customers-all-you-need-to-handle-a-ben-dover-file-sharing-letter-121204/

O2 / BE Customers: All You Need To Handle A Ben Dover File-Sharing Letter

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Last weekend customers of ISPs O2 and BE began receiving notifications that their accounts had been used for illicit file-sharing. The claims originate from Golden Eye International who are connected to the famous porn outfit Ben Dover. Very soon they will drop so-called “letters of claim” through customers’ letter boxes, potentially ruining Christmas for thousands of families with demands for a cash settlement. But with the right response, this get-rich-quick-scheme can be stopped in its tracks.

Last Saturday morning customers of two ISPs in the UK woke up to a nasty surprise. Letters sent by ISPs O2 and BE advised that customer accounts had been somehow linked to copyright infringement and how this could lead to serious consequences.

“Two companies, Golden Eye (International) Limited and Ben Dover Productions (we will refer to them both as Golden Eye in this letter), allege that some of our customers broadband accounts have been used to download films from the internet, without paying for them,” O2 wrote.

“Golden Eye produced evidence which identified the anonymous IP address used to download that content. The Court then ordered O2 to check them against our customer records, and to give Golden Eye the corresponding name and address of the account holder.”

O2 then goes on to say that the High Court ordered it to hand over the names of alleged file-sharers to Golden Eye and, in an attempt to come over as the good guy, added that “O2 had no choice but to comply.”

The truth is that O2 could have made a real effort to contest the proceedings but did no such thing. As a result Golden Eye are now in possession of the identities of 2,845 O2 and BE customers to try and make money from.

Soon, and quite possibly just in time for Christmas, Golden Eye will write a letter to these O2 customers (click here to see what it will look like plus read our analysis here). In it they will outline their complicated copyright claim but ultimately announce that they are prepared to forget the whole thing if O2 and BE customers pay them some hard cash.

No amount will be mentioned but on past UK experiences it will be anything up to around £600. However, some people receiving these letters will not pay Golden Eye a single penny.

These people will have read and understood the Speculative Invoicing Handbook Second Edition, an invaluable guide released today. While the letters sent by GEIL have been approved by the High Court they are still crafted to intimidate, whereas the Speculative Invoicing Handbook is designed to inform and empower.

“The guide, which succinctly summarizes the operation of these mass litigation schemes, has proven a boon to those incorrectly accused in the past,” consumer rights campaigner and speculative invoicing expert James Bench told TorrentFreak.

It’s believed that the first edition of this superb publication enabled thousands of innocent account holders to avoid paying settlements to the infamous ACS:Law, eventually resulting in that company’s collapse and the bankruptcy of its operator.

The lawyer involved, Andrew Crossley, was also suspended by the Law Society for two years for his conduct, but he wasn’t the first casualty resulting from this type of work.

“Law firm Davenport Lyons, the pioneers of this type of volume litigation in the UK, saw two partners suspended by the Law Society and were forced to pay a substantial fine,” Bench notes.

Mindful of these unfavorable outcomes, GEIL have taken precautions.

“GEIL are the first copyright licensees to act for themselves in these matters, rather than appointing solicitors to send the letters on their behalf,” James Bench explains.

While GEIL have probably learned valuable lessons from the activities of ACS:Law, the key points remain the same.

First, the company does not have sufficient evidence to prove who has carried out any infringement. This is a huge problem for them since they can only claim settlement from the actual infringer and they don’t know who it is. They can only guess at that person’s identity – short of an ill-advised confession of course.

Second, if an Internet account holder didn’t carry out any file-sharing and didn’t tell someone else they could do so on their connection, they aren’t liable and don’t have to pay a penny. Golden Eye will eventually have to accept that and move on, even if they don’t do so straight away.

The Speculative Invoicing Handbook Second Edition can be downloaded here, and don’t forget to check out other support sites here and here. If you’ve received a letter, contact TorrentFreak in confidence.


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The implications of the ruling are serious. Golden Eye can now approach companies that previously haven’t had the will or means to obtain court orders against individuals they believe to have shared their products online, giving them easy access to a ready-made pay-up-or-else scheme in the UK.


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And according to Golden Eye’s Julian Becker, things will kick off quickly. Not only will the letters connected to the first batch of 9,000 IP addresses go out in the New Year, but the company will now work on getting more rightsholders on board.


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so what does this mean? download any pron in the past how long without using a vpn and you're in for a raping?

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2013 12:43 pm 
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cooder wrote:
Bert Trautmanns neck brace wrote:
Because I am a mean sod I scour the kindle shop for the free books.Most of them are free for a reason ie they are self published crap.
Sometimes however , like women , you can find a diamond amongst the lumps of coal.


Just pay £4.50 for this service:

http://btguard.com/

If you were then inclined to download loads of stuff: films, music, books etc then you'd be absolutely quids in. All of the fun of getting what you want for £4.50 a month and none of the worry about being on the radar of the authorities.

I wholeheartedly do not think illegal downloading is fun but if you were to do it, in the current climate that exists, please, please, please do not do it without protection. I'll get coodered if I go into depth but trust me, if you're of a mind to download stuff have protection please


Could there come a day when this company is pressured to relinquish it's users' identities? Surely if it is creating a loop hole they will inevitably come under pressure.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2013 12:48 pm 
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gibbonicus_andronicus wrote:
so what does this mean? download any pron in the past how long without using a vpn and you're in for a raping?


Not quite. They acquired the IPs of 9,000 people in a set sample. To be honest, that's probably a few particular films being monitored for a week or two. If you happened to have downloaded one of these particular films whilst they are being monitored (whilst downloading you have access to the IPs of all other people in that swarm. They get jotted down and go to court and ask the court to provide them with the owner of the IP) then they are likely to have your IP. A work friend of Mrs C's got one of these letters so I know firsthand they exist and are being sent.

The problem with this ruling is that it is allowing an ambulance chasing business model. Companies are going to emerge which monitor torrents, gather huge swarms of infringing IP's, go to the content owner and offer them a percentage of the settlement if they permit to the "settlement" offers being sent. It's copyright trolling. It used to be that you'd have to go to Court for individual IPs - a lengthy and awkward process. This ruling is allowing the release of personal details wholesale.

The thing is that this whole process is playing on people's lack of knowledge. Basically you'll be sent a letter saying "you've been caught downloading this (porn at the moment, but will soon change to films, music etc). Pay us x amount (around £800) and we won't take it to court". This is outside of legislation etc. An IP address is not a person. It's not yet been properly challenged in court, but can you sue/ hold responsible the person who pays the bills if they have no knowledge (or claim to have no knowledge of) downloading the illicit material?

What I'm saying is that if you are to download this sort of material (anything illegal), for the price of Netflix or whatever, you can be anonymous and beyond the reach of these companies. Don't forget these aren't enforcing law. They're saying pay us and we won't pursue a criminal claim. What would happen if they pursued a criminal claim and somebody paid for a good defence? Who knows.


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Dark Blue wrote:
cooder wrote:
Bert Trautmanns neck brace wrote:
Because I am a mean sod I scour the kindle shop for the free books.Most of them are free for a reason ie they are self published crap.
Sometimes however , like women , you can find a diamond amongst the lumps of coal.


Just pay £4.50 for this service:

http://btguard.com/

If you were then inclined to download loads of stuff: films, music, books etc then you'd be absolutely quids in. All of the fun of getting what you want for £4.50 a month and none of the worry about being on the radar of the authorities.

I wholeheartedly do not think illegal downloading is fun but if you were to do it, in the current climate that exists, please, please, please do not do it without protection. I'll get coodered if I go into depth but trust me, if you're of a mind to download stuff have protection please


Could there come a day when this company is pressured to relinquish it's users' identities? Surely if it is creating a loop hole they will inevitably come under pressure.


It could. However, they claim they don't keep records. As much as you can have confidence in companies, the sources I've read concur that this is in fact true. Future legislation could force these companies to start recording IPs. We're well off that at the moment and there's huge amounts of unprotected people to shoot at. For now, it's a safe bet.

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Gotta give card details though... But yeah safer.

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Actually if they do hand over credit card details to copyright holders it would be harder to argue that although your IP was tracked you personally have no knowledge of illegal torrenting.

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Actually if they do hand over credit card details to copyright holders it would be harder to argue that although your IP was tracked you personally have no knowledge of illegal torrenting.


You pay through paypal.

Using a proxy/VPN doesn't prove you've illegally downloaded either. If it went to a jury (never would) it would cast a dim light, but legally using a VPN/Proxy doesn't make you an illegal downloader. Besides, no personal details are recorded so nobody can check.

Basically the company looking to pursue you tracks from the torrent looking for your IP. It gets the IP address of the Proxy. The proxy tell the company that they couldn't tell you which IP address they require because no records are kept.


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Actually if they do hand over credit card details to copyright holders it would be harder to argue that although your IP was tracked you personally have no knowledge of illegal torrenting.


You pay through paypal.

Using a proxy/VPN doesn't prove you've illegally downloaded either. If it went to a jury (never would) it would cast a dim light, but legally using a VPN/Proxy doesn't make you an illegal downloader. Besides, no personal details are recorded so nobody can check.

Basically the company looking to pursue you tracks from the torrent looking for your IP. It gets the IP address of the Proxy. The proxy tell the company that they couldn't tell you which IP address they require because no records are kept.

imma sign up to this this evening.

and then not down load a stack of films as seen in "last film watched" because it's immoral.

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gibbonicus_andronicus wrote:
cooder wrote:
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Actually if they do hand over credit card details to copyright holders it would be harder to argue that although your IP was tracked you personally have no knowledge of illegal torrenting.


You pay through paypal.

Using a proxy/VPN doesn't prove you've illegally downloaded either. If it went to a jury (never would) it would cast a dim light, but legally using a VPN/Proxy doesn't make you an illegal downloader. Besides, no personal details are recorded so nobody can check.

Basically the company looking to pursue you tracks from the torrent looking for your IP. It gets the IP address of the Proxy. The proxy tell the company that they couldn't tell you which IP address they require because no records are kept.

imma sign up to this this evening.

and then not down load a stack of films as seen in "last film watched" because it's immoral.


Loads of oscar bait has been released lately. I recommend not downloading Django unchanined, Hitchock, Lincoln, Seven Psychopaths, the Impossible , the Hobbit etc.

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Also if you want to keep current with all things torrent, read this site (RSS feed into your favourite RSS reader app - "Pulse" for me - is a good idea):

http://torrentfreak.com/


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This like every R Harris book is a belter. Do read;

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Just started on this. In prologue, it is already clear that Joao Havelange is more dodgy than BBC's sex partners.

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cooder wrote:
Bert Trautmanns neck brace wrote:
Because I am a mean sod I scour the kindle shop for the free books.Most of them are free for a reason ie they are self published crap.
Sometimes however , like women , you can find a diamond amongst the lumps of coal.


Just pay £4.50 for this service:

http://btguard.com/

If you were then inclined to download loads of stuff: films, music, books etc then you'd be absolutely quids in. All of the fun of getting what you want for £4.50 a month and none of the worry about being on the radar of the authorities.

I wholeheartedly do not think illegal downloading is fun but if you were to do it, in the current climate that exists, please, please, please do not do it without protection. I'll get coodered if I go into depth but trust me, if you're of a mind to download stuff have protection please


Now I'm not saying btguard isn't the bees knees for some folks but I've spent a while trying to get a number of torrent clients to work with it and nothing, I've emailed their support to no avail, I've trawled through numerous forums of people with similar problems, I've played around with host files to see if my ISP was being down on btguard, I've fucking tried, and that shit don't work. I turn it off and its full stream ahead. Bit annoying that I whacked done a year's subscription after reading your post. :(

I'm not saying you owe me the money per se, its just a bit disappointing is all. Their customer support lends itself to the suspicion that they have at best scant regard for their customers.

http://forum.vuze.com/thread.jspa?threadID=109131

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lol. See if you weren't such a no0b cunt, you'd know the first rule of The Forum is you gotta ignore Cooder's shit.

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