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The poll tax was a rate per person not per property, which was good for single people but not for large families of adults.


Any tax that is not based on income and ability to pay is a con. Bastards are threatening to introduce that kind of shite here.

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Any tax that is not based on income and ability to pay is a con. Bastard is threatening to introduce that kind of shite here.


Doesn't surprise me. The big twat.

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Doesn't surprise me. The big twat.


It would be kind of like him. Bastard.

Edit: Taliban, he's only taking it from the Irish though, so fair play to him.

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It would be kind of like him. Bastard.

Edit: Taliban, he's only taking it from the Irish though, so fair play to him.


Well, we're all skint now so he'll be getting fuck all.

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speakling of demonstrations, wonder if you can bet on riots occuring this summer?

To politicians, we're little more than meaningless blobs on a monitor. Bring on the summer of rageWe're the ants in their garden. The bacteria in their stools. Politicians have nothing but contempt for us
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Any abusive relationship tends to end with a long, slow phase of mounting disappointment followed by a sudden, irreversible snapping point. The descent to rock bottom may take years but when you get there, the force of impact still shocks, and it's precisely this shock that gives you the strength to walk away. Take smoking, for instance. You can light up for years, hating yourself and the habit a little bit more with each accumulated puff, yet remain hopelessly locked in nicotine's pointless embrace, until one day you find yourself scrabbling through the kitchen bin, picking potato peelings off a dog end because it's 11pm and the shops are closed and GOD YOU NEED A FAG . . . when you catch sight of your sorry junkie-arsed reflection in the shiny bin lid and undergo an epiphany of self-disgust, vowing to quit there and then.

I bring this up because I suspect that across the country, people are undergoing similar epiphanies every day. Not about cigarettes, but politicians. My personal snapping point was reached last week, at the precise moment Jack Straw announced the government was vetoing the Information Tribunal's order for the release of cabinet minutes relating to that whole invasion-of-Iraq thing. Come on, you remember Iraq: that little foreign policy blip millions of us protested against to absolutely zero avail, because Straw and his pals figured they knew best, even though it turned out they didn't and - oops! - hundreds of thousands of lives were lost as a result. Remember the footage of that screaming little boy with his limbs blown off? Maybe not. Maybe you felt a shiver of guilt when you saw that; guilt that you hadn't personally done enough to prevent it; should've shouted louder, marched further. Or maybe it stunned you into numbness. Because what was the point in protesting any more? These people do what they want.

They do what they want, these people, and you and I are cut out of the conversation. I'm sure they're dimly aware we still exist. They must spot us occasionally, through the window, jumping up and down in the cold with our funny placards . . . although come to think of it, they can't even see us through the window, since they banned peaceful protest within a mile of Parliament.

Instead they pick us up on a monitor, courtesy of one of the 15bn CCTV cameras that scrutinise our every move in the name of security. On the screen you're nothing but a tiny monochrome blob; two-dimensional and faceless. And that's just how they like it.

Straw and co blocked the release of the minutes, claiming that to actually let us know what was going on would set a dangerous precedent that would harm good government. Ministers wouldn't speak frankly at cabinet meetings if they felt their discussions would be subjected to the sort of scrutiny that, say, our every waking move is. In other words, they'd be more worried about the press coverage they'd get than the strength of their arguments.

Well, boo hoo. Surely craven pussies like that shouldn't be governing anyway?

Having pissed in the public's face, Straw went on to shake the final drips down its nose, writing a defence of the government's civil liberties record in this paper in which he claimed "talk of Britain sliding into a police state is daft scaremongering, but even were it true there is a mechanism to prevent it - democratic elections . . .

People have the power to vote out administrations which they believe are heavy-handed." Thanks, Jacksy - can I call you Jacksy? - but who the hell are we supposed to vote in? Despite a bit of grumbling, the Tories supported the veto. Because they wouldn't want cabinet minutes published either.

It's all over. The politicians have finally shut us out of their game for good and we have nowhere left to turn. We're not part of their world any more. We don't even speak the same language. We're the ants in their garden. The bacteria in their stools. They have nothing but contempt for us. They snivel and lie and duck questions on torture - on torture, for Christ's sake - while demanding we respect their authority. They monitor our every belch and fart, and insist it's all for our own good.

Straw wrote, "If people were angels there would be no need for government . . . But sadly people are not all angels." That rather makes it sound as though he believes politicians aren't mere people. Maybe they're the gods of Olympus. Maybe that's why they're in charge.

Thing is, they could get away with this bullshit while times were good, while people were comfortable enough to ignore what was happening; when people were focusing on plasma TVs and iPods and celebrity gossip instead of what the politicians were doing - not because they're stupid, but because they know a closed shop when they see one. But now it looks as if those times are at an end, and more and more of us are pulling the dreampipes from the back of our skulls, undergoing a negative epiphany; blinking into the cold light of day.

Consequently the police are preparing for a "summer of rage". To the powers that be, that probably just means more tiny monochrome blobs jumping up and down on the long-distance monitor for their amusement. Should it turn out to be more visceral than that, they'll have no one to blame but themselves.

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Any chance of a summary? i refuse to read Guardian articles as a point of principle;)

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all politicans are c**ts, labour are going to get booted out and we'll get carbon copy bastards with the conservatives. and we need a summer of armed insurrection.
try readin it TB, its actually good.

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only just catching up on this now...

the delusion that she was a god is because you didn't see first hand the stuff she did to the country, as frank points out far better than i could.

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Maggie is god, as i said, i'm from "royal berkshire" (tory heartland):D The only other thing you could blame her for is joining ERM, but she was talked into that by others...
I was 8 when she left office btw

Yes, i believe the odds are now on labours side at elections due to new constituencies, boundary changes being predominantly in Labour areas.
[B]Atlee gave up most of our empire, and worse of all, was Labour

boundary changes? what? you mean instead of it being a london-centric, determined by a conservative government policy it now becomes a dirty trick? the empire was fucked before that, and i was under the impression that it was given up as much as a "thank you" for help during world war 2 as for any other reason. that and colonialism was sooo 19th century

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You obviously didn't have to try and find work whilst she was in power.

Fucking hate Thatcher.


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only just catching up on this now...

the delusion that she was a god is because you didn't see first hand the stuff she did to the country, as frank points out far better than i could.


boundary changes? what? you mean instead of it being a london-centric, determined by a conservative government policy it now becomes a dirty trick? the empire was fucked before that, and i was under the impression that it was given up as much as a "thank you" for help during world war 2 as for any other reason. that and colonialism was sooo 19th century


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The technical term for this is one of my all time favourite words, that you rarely get to use. Gerrymandering.

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Benny wrote:
The technical term for this is one of my all time favourite words, that you rarely get to use. Gerrymandering.


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I'd like to see Boris Johnson as PM
Best Mayor Ever:D


Let’s see how this goes then
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